tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29524018.post5169512807794655167..comments2024-01-22T19:10:23.007-05:00Comments on A Commonplace Book: Before Ascham: Early Works on ArcheryWill McLeanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14685409952186547597noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29524018.post-86986028453616310312015-10-10T08:35:03.189-05:002015-10-10T08:35:03.189-05:00Sufficient evidence for bows shaped by steaming is...Sufficient evidence for bows shaped by steaming is their existence, as well as Ascham's advice that bowyers should use enough heat. A bowstave does not grow with equal curves conveniently at both prescribed ends. Curvatures were more common in smallbows [bows of ca. 5' as opposed to longbows, at least as long as the shooters height]. Waxed arrows would have been fletched with sealing wax to fuse feather, shaft, and thread binding rather than the laborious ineffective processdetailed above.Erik Rothnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29524018.post-26252066808235116272015-03-08T14:11:56.725-05:002015-03-08T14:11:56.725-05:00No they don't show how they were made, and yes...No they don't show how they were made, and yes they could be showing other things, but those uĆ³ther thing are supposition too! The joy of studying history! ;) O until we find more surviving examples we will be in a similar position we were until the bows on the MAry Rose were found, using the evidence we can.. and some of that is the fun!The European Historical Combat Guildhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02425115205496881300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29524018.post-52609230654082698392015-03-07T15:40:17.371-05:002015-03-07T15:40:17.371-05:00Thank you. That gives me one name to look up, and...Thank you. That gives me one name to look up, and maybe I will read "steaming" in an encyclopaedia of medieval technology and see if it was common in other areas of life.<br /><br />The pictures of recurved bows a little shorter than the user are definitely mysterious, but they do not show how such bows were made. A bow with a light side and a dark side could be painted (or be an artist' attempt to show a flat belly and a curved back) as easily as being of yew. I think that I have seen one of those paintings in the Bayerisches Nationalmuseum Munich.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29524018.post-39433539058570821392015-02-26T17:15:13.181-05:002015-02-26T17:15:13.181-05:00There are images of bows with recurved tips, in No...There are images of bows with recurved tips, in Northern European art, there one or two surviving bows in germany, a few researchers and authors have information on them and some bowyers have made them, Chris Boyton he in the UK, I have shot a couple of the reconstructions.<br />There are also images of recurved bows in other parts of Europe, generally in Italy, that are painted with light and dark , sides, in shades similar to the heart and sap wood of yewThe European Historical Combat Guildhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02425115205496881300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29524018.post-22101732767945904162015-02-16T04:32:21.292-05:002015-02-16T04:32:21.292-05:00When the author of the King's Mirror speaks of...When the author of the King's Mirror speaks of a "horn bow" that is pretty clear to me. "Turkish bow" is one of those phrases which needs a medievalists to sit down with a lot of texts, hundreds of images, and the "Traditional Bowyer's Bible" to unpick, but we can infer that it was relatively short and relatively curved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29524018.post-74572158101118290092015-02-16T04:29:45.463-05:002015-02-16T04:29:45.463-05:00What evidence do you have of bows being shaped by ...What evidence do you have of bows being shaped by steaming in medieval Europe? If you have some, that would allow another interpretation for the short recurved bows in art.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29524018.post-30032680383163231652015-02-15T09:53:50.821-05:002015-02-15T09:53:50.821-05:00True though the insights here are in to shooting w...True though the insights here are in to shooting with self bows, or of the what we would now consider longbows, (knowing that of course that term is not used before the 15th century).<br />It also can throw an extra bit of spice into the pie, when we add the potential kof bows being backed with velum etc, and then the steamed tip self bows.<br />While interesting in themselves, and not informative about some of the more important but obscure aspects that apply to archery in Northern and Western Europe<br /><br />While intriguing the mentions of other bows don't of themselves indicate what or how the bows themselves were made but only that they appeared different enough for some note to be made... Calling something a Turkish bow in the 14th century England doesn't necessarily mean it was a Turkish pastries. Danish Pastries aren't danish... and things that we might call a Danish in Denmark are called Viennese... The European Historical Combat Guildhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02425115205496881300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29524018.post-11583106051291526662015-02-15T06:34:15.749-05:002015-02-15T06:34:15.749-05:00Don't forget sources from Greek Christendom an...Don't forget sources from Greek Christendom and the Moslem world. The earliest archery manuals which I know are in Greek from around the sixth century CE. Composite and sinew-reinforced bows were used all over Europe even if long self bows appear to have been more common and short self bows may have sometimes been used as well based on two finds from Britain. See eg. the Turkysh bow in that English inquest circa 1300, or the hornbogen in the Norwegian King's Mirror.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29524018.post-63589481738168632282015-02-15T04:36:55.632-05:002015-02-15T04:36:55.632-05:00Hi
Thanks for sharing the thoughts on the transla...Hi <br />Thanks for sharing the thoughts on the translations<br />where do you base your translation of takel specifically for an arrow? my sources suggest use referring to equipment involved in shooting but seems to be crossbow related...The European Historical Combat Guildhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02425115205496881300noreply@blogger.com